I think the vinyl tube needs to be 5/8 and you need to soak it in warm water to soften it so it will slide over the chain easier. Maybe API buys the same chain and does the testing/engineering to validate them for bearing those loads overhead while live human beings are suspended from them. ever did , which is a big plus. of shrink wrap come in handy, you can align the old wrap with the ends of the
Are you saying for someone to buy non-API chains (not intended for climbing stand use) and figure out a way to rig them in place, or are you saying you can find a bargain on replacement equipment approved for climbing purposes? If you Google it you will find many people have done this. Disclaimer: The information is all provided as-is, with no guarantees on availability or accuracy of the results. byuntying the end to whatever you are using as a hold and form the chain
Next while the vinyl tubing is heating up in the hot water , you
Myself and several others have been using this Vinyl tubing now
the pins go in correctly through the holes you just drilled(you may have to do a
removal. Like the one guy said it is cheap, when something is cheap you wouldn't imagine all the uses it gets. Take the wrap off completely and dip the chain in Plastic DipThe stuff sold for took handles. wire feed thru the vinyl tubing better take one end of the wire and form
You'll never miss the Summit. Copyright 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. http://www.apioutdoors.com/api_outdocall/index.tpl, http://www.adventuresoutdoors.freehomepage.com/. Disabling it will result in some disabled or missing features. One of my tree stands is an API. I went to Lowes and got some Clear plastic tubing about the diameter size as the chain. formany years and it is still as good as new , just like it was when i put
I think I'm on year 5 with the vinyl and it hasn't worn at all. Still holding up. remove the factory heat shrink from them. another benefit to doing this is that it is a bit stiffer than the
Copyright 2000-2022 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Interesting. Just curious, are you just blowing off steam or did you really threaten me? chain links with any nicks from the drill bit. I ordered some 2040 roller chain one time for an old API Shoot n' Star. Next take a small hand file and debur the inside edges of the
The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, http://www.guncustomizing.com/API-Treestand.htm, VerticalScope Inc., 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. aluminum tubing where the plastic bushings were removed, by doing so you are
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All rights reserved. You can paint the clear tubing with a quality spray paint such as
Those cable on your Summit should never wear out. Hence why the numbers match. I bought an API Grand Slam Supreme climbing tree stand back in the 90's. They used 2 diff ones I believe but 2040 was the most used. Another great benefit to using the Vinyl tubing is that it also
Worked really well. Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. for the moment. It cracks very easy, The pre wrapped chain from api lasts much longer. I have use it hard for about 8 years and have replaced the chain with shrink wrap several times with material purchased from electrical supply houses. Then get some clear vinyl to wrap the chains. The only difference was supposed to be that the API chains were coated to help with corrosion. itthru the tubing without hanging . Your recently viewed items and featured recommendations, Select the department you want to search in.
You can also get replacement sleeves for your API chains, Summit cables, and Loggy Bayou cables on API for a great deal and there heavy duty. This is where the old sections
I have probably had this stand for 8 years. I started to just re heat shrink the existing chains but have read that the chains could be subjected to stress cracks over time. done. JavaScript is disabled. tubing of the stand and will last for many years to come . Skip the Heat shrink it tears and wears to quickly. undone while pulling the vinyl tubing over the chain. very informative and what was suggeseted appeared to be safe and sound ideas. of the tubing prior to heating), Now the next step is to drill holes in the vinyl tubing between
API treestands, As to the shrink wrap on the chains that came originally on the
It also helps the chain keep it's shape so that it doesn't get hung up when climbing. I bought all the stuff last year on Amazon.com after looking at this thread. Well for what its worth I already went thru this. helps when getting it over the chain as it is a tight fit. You can but the chains and all the stuff to do it for $30. to know where to place the holes needed in the tubing your fixing to replace on
I haven't replaced the chains, but really like the clear vinyl tubing on the chains instead of the shrink wrap. My fix is to take the s&$t off. than buying the shrink wrap which only wears out ! You will find that the vinyl covered chains fit well in the square
section(ends with holes) of the shrink wrap from the chain which makes it easier
He is not the only one to do this. then place the chains into the stand making sure
I hate to overpay for anything, but I would not personally trust my life to some sort of jury-rigged fix just so I could save $50. If you don't use anything on the chains, that will happen..they will also tend to rattle in the metal rails as you walk and also catch more sand. UPC 811918020178 is associated with API Outdoors Replacement Power Gripping Treestand Chains - 65''. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. due to the chain being stiffer and making it easier to reach around the tree
By logging into your account, you agree to our, Location: Stafford Virginia Stafford,Va, The following errors occurred with your submission. I boiled the tubing to make it pliable and then greased the chain up and slid the chain through it. Also if wanted you can paint the tubing to camo it a bit if needed
I can deal with the noise if I have to. It isn't cheap. A forum community dedicated to bow and crossbow owners and archery enthusiasts. Daniel the best way on those API is to do it yourself. Do your SPORTIN' in WHARTON, Population 92. Please make sure that you are posting in the form of a question. Here is a bit of info that will help many whom own and use
with the section of tubing over the wire which it tied off to
Ihave a couple of stands with the tubing painted on them and
You can still see all customer reviews for the product. I checked API's website, where they are about $75 plus shipping. onboth ends as the plastic coating will slip if not removed . Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, performance, troubleshooting, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! I didn't use the plastic covers on my API chains once they wore out I just slit a piece of stiff garden hose and wired it onto the chain where the chain rests on the back of the tree. try it .it works for 8 bucks at home depot!! So I went to TSC and got the same oneexcept I think the TSC chain is a much stouter chain. Cookie Policy -
The only thing that you likely will have to replace is the shrink tubing that goes over the cable. Family member just gave me an older API climber. You also have to pop out the black plastic ends from the stand, but I've seen no ill effects from doing this. Make sure to get the thin-walled tubing, otherwise it won't fit into the stand. Now take the clear vinyl tubing from the hot water and
I just wanted to present the other side of that topic. I'd like to replace the chain and covering. wrench to hold inside the inner edge of the bushings and pulling them out,
It also analyzed reviews to verify trustworthiness. it only needs to be a foot or so longer than your tubing but longer is ok. My wife found some but it was too small and they didn't have any other so I ordered off ebay for $8. to remove the bushings , make yourself a tool
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Product prices are accurate as of the date/time indicated and are subject to change. Has anyone replaced these chains?? This page works best with JavaScript. tubing as the chains used are only 5 ft. 6 inches long the size you need is .625
always climb hardwood trees which are much rougher barked than pines are. Privacy Statement -
off as they will become stiffer and shrink a bit(back to the original stiffness
i found mine back in plumbing. A lot of shrink tubing you buy over the counter is only 2 to 1 and will not fit over the dowels and recover all the way down to the cable. All rights reserved. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, http://www.ebay.com/itm/API-Outdoor853?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a2d9e2b05, http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trkN+CABLE+REPLACEMENT+COVERS&_sacat=0&_from=R40, Sights, scopes, stabilizers and dampeners, Rests, Releases, Grips, Wrist Straps and Slings, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. (this took some work). New they're like $80. Someone had some posted for a long time for I think $30-35. and after drilling these holes trim off the excess tubing you have that extends
Share in the stories, pictures, tips, tactics and learn how to be a better bowhunter. Plan on doing it tomorrow. I called them and ordered over the phone. stand and take the opposite end from theJ bendof the wire and tie it
It worked and was a lot cheaper, but what I got was heavy oiled and picked up sand real easy. feedthe J formedend of the wire through it until it comes out the
Can you heat the clear vinyl as we do the shrink tubing with a torch to get a tight fit without burning it???? Instead, our system considers things like how recent a review is and if the reviewer bought the item on Amazon. Wrap it with something for sure. I was recently told you can get the chain for these at tractor supply. This stand has performed well over the years but now the shrink wrap covering the chains is toast and there's some rust showing. They used to sell it. Is "A2040" a chain size or a strength class? and out of stock. tubing. Cover them with Vinyl tubing. I believe it was finally the API website# that crossed. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use. out. Water hose could quiet it down a bit. aJ shapeby folding it over onto itself approx. chain , you can easily reheat the tubing with it partially over the chain
As far as the seats I could probably use a couple myself. sections of the clear vinyl tubing and make a coil of it and still be able to
Thanks for your input! 1/4 to 3/8 inch and
Very good pointHave you experienced this rolling? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I didn't use tubing on my replacement chain. securely to the last link in one end of the chain. API didnt go under contrary to the links info! But, I fixed the rattle and didn't care about all the other. slide over the chain covering it , the more chain you get covered with the
This tubing even makes it easier to place the stand onto the tree
other end of the vinyl tubingand thentakethe end of this wire
I've seen it used on everything from conveyors, bicycles, Harleys and my favorite those old pedal cars from the 50s. The A2040 chain is the exact same chain that is purchased by API. Garden hose prevents it. which makes it easier to get over the chain. This works!! Just bought a used API and discovered what a PITA that flaky old wrap is. yes there is. Guess what..it was a part # for a combine chain. I only got a couple of years out of the shrink wrap before it got busted up and noisy. Awesome stand!! A2040 is cheap motorcycle chain I have it by the spoils in the shop. small amount of deburing on the vinyl tubing where the drill left vinyl
That's really the only area of the chain that needs plastic anyway. Sources? The chains are pretty rusty, so I need to replace them. Do the other section of the chain the same way to get the vinyl
tubing prior to doing this. I don't think God intended for us to be this busy. We will check it out. andclamping the longer endwith vise grip pliers to pull them
Talk about the passion that is bowhunting. Does anyone know where to get replacement cables for climbing stands, I've got a few different kind that needs replaced. Note: if having trouble getting the tubing to slide over the
Customer Reviews, including Product Star Ratings help customers to learn more about the product and decide whether it is the right product for them. where the chain goes in the tubing, this plastic bushingwill NOT used any
movewhile pulling the vinyl tubing over the chain. scuffed a bit just touch it up with a bit more spray paint. You may try calling them. its best to go thru the link
by doing this you are making the vinyl tubing soft and flexible which
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pick up one of the chains for the
for the seat section . If its oiled u can just decrease it with something like brake cleaner. submerge it into the hot water to let it heat up by soaking it for a few
longer which you can throw away. You can get 22mm shrink wrap on ebay for less than $10. climbing irregular shaped trees), The vinyl tubing holds much better than the old shrink wrap
something stable, all you have to do is pull on the clear tubing to get it to
untie the wire from the end of the chain you had it tied to and your almost
the wrap and then simply peeling it off to save the hole positions . Its from China and took nearly 2 weeks but I did get it. quietens the stand while carrying it, NO more rattling chains while walking with the stand on your back. the chain .This is easily done by just cutting a slit along the length of
chain as it is easily seen through the clear tubing as to how it was covering
I need some new chains and a seat for a API Grand slam myself. To calculate the overall star rating and percentage breakdown by star, we dont use a simple average. Thanks , I use an API and will keep that info and look into when needed but so far mine has held up during the few yrs I've had it. (5/8 ths of an inch) by .750 O.D. JavaScript is disabled. Probably 15 years ago API went to a better shrink wrap. will need a section of wire to be used for pulling the chain through the tubing,
Disclosure: We may earn a commission when you use one of our links to make a purchase. the plastic can easily be removed by using the short end of an allen
Using a 7/16ths(.437) drill bit , drill the holes in the tubing
words..hehe. I tore the covering off the "original API chain", looked on the API website and ran every number I could find. Do Not Sell My Personal Information -. The factory stuff was pretty much useless since it would wear to a
they have held up well in the last few years of hard use, if the tubing becomes
and tubing into a coil to place both back into hot water to soften it back up
I've never bought replacements before, so do I have cheaper options here? Years back I used a heat gun and put pex tubing over mine. I.D. tubing over it as well. My only complaint is it is too comfortable. what i noticed the most about this upgrade was.the cable stayed in the shape of a U all the time.up or down.unlike the old shrinktube coating that would kink at any break in shrink coating. 1 visitor has found this accurate, what do you think? boiling state note: (do the following step after removing the water from the
I replaced the original stuff that would only last about 2 years with the newer stuff and haven't had to replace it since. Go to tractor supply and get 10 foot of combine chain. Archive -
you will have to research the DIY section and in the last 18 months there were threads on what chain to buy and how to wrap it in rubber so it does'nt rattle. Had to use para cord tied to the chain and had the tubing on the paracord. Look at the chain link on the api and it will have the numbers you need. paint is the part of the tubing that meets the tree while climbing and i most
shavings), below is a picture as sometimes a pic is worth a thousand
tubing instead of heat shrink: Go to your local hardware store and buy 12 feet of clear vinyl
Bass Pro wants over $60. I've tried the heat shrink tube. But, I used a piece of garden hose on the backs to keep the chain from caving in on the tree and getting hung up as you climb. I don't think this would fall under jury-rigged. Sounds like I may have to run up to tractor supply and see what I can find. Just checking. only removing very small amounts of metal from the inner square edges to smooth
API Outdoors Replacement Power Gripping Treestand Chains - 65'', Sporting Goods > Outdoor Recreation > Hunting & Shooting > Hunting > Tree Stands. to ease removal of these bushings by taking a 1/4 inchallen wrench
Sell the Summit and buy a Treewalker. minutes. What should you look for in deciding if you need to change the cables on a summit? Top subscription boxes right to your door, 1996-2022, Amazon.com, Inc. or its affiliates, API Tree Stand Rep Chains Magnum Replacement Chains 2/Pk, Learn more how customers reviews work on Amazon, See all details for API Tree Stand Rep Chains Magnum Replacement Chains 2/Pk. When they redesigned the area where the cable locks into place the tubing became more prone to tearing than it did with the previous design where you flipped over the end cover. Now that you have the chains covered with the tubing let them cool
it on. As long as they have been for sale they might ship them to you. Bell & Carlson Stock - 700 BDL LA - Sporter, Any 80s or 90s to early 2000s single cab 4x4s, http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=1596618, Summit Tree Stand shrink wrap tubing $15.99 at Midway, http://www.guncustomizing.com/API-Treestand.htm, Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.6.1.1. links and be extremely careful not to let the drill bit ride against any part of
You just need to make sure it is a 3 to 1 shrink ratio. Products with UPC 811918020178 were listed on the following websites. About the only place mine has shown any major wear off with the
It is exactly what api used. as I have painted several after placing the Vinyl tubing on, the paint seems to
From what I've read the chain is rated at 3500-3700lbs, which should be plenty. them up a bit and this stepprolongs thelife of the tubing on the
Only thing that stopped me from getting one was the plastic hose. stove using no heat), The pan needs to be large enough to take one of the 6 foot
UPC 811918020178 has following Product Name Variations: EcoProCote Acri-Soy Wood Floor Sidewalk and Concrete Sealer 1 Gal Matte. Copyright @ 2022 upcitemdb.com. sometimes you may have to use a few hammer blows against the pliers to aid their
if you read the link. the i/d needs to be 5/8 outside is 3/4 rubber hose is a different size, the reason you use the clear tubing so when you boil it it gets soft enough to be pulled on the chain .when it cools it is tight on chain my works perfect. no noise! with enough to form several loops around itself to hold better and not slip
protruding from the tubing and tie it off to something that will not
Dont use the stand anymore but checked it out in the attic couple months ago. This may seem like a crazy question, but it is in all seriousness. Advertising -
(3/4 ths of an inch) use a 6 feet length of
Next step is a bit tricky but well worth the time, Place a large pan of water on the kitchen stove and heat it to a
Lasts a whole lot longer than shrink tubing. As far as covering. drilling was no problem.. took a exacto knife and took away any burs in holes. base to get ahold of when placing your stand on a tree. The chain is stamped A2040. last for many years of hard use and it's easily done. In his post he said he used the same chain as the original in his stand. Krylon and it will adhere well to the Vinyl tubing and last for a long time. chain ends simply mark the locations for the holes to be drilled in the vinyl
frazzle with only a few climbings of rough/hardwood tree's but there IS a much better solution to covering the chains that will
chains when done correctly. stick very well and only wears off where the chain meets the tree whilst
Next take the chains out of your stand and lay them to the side
Check out the Louisville,ky craigslist and do a search for API replacement chains. if you used rubber hose that wasnt tight what would stop it from rolling on chain and making stand slip.you choose, click on link read..follow steps..i did not create this.. the link is a person who figured this out .im just sharing it because it works!!!!!! I took a close look at timbertall stands before. it is advisable to save each end
Here's what you do to fix the chains by covering them with Vinyl
Once you have the tubing completely covering the chain you simply
I have run API stands exclusively for over 20 years, I pick up new shrink wrap on Amazon every couple years, replaced the chains I think once on each as well. Check this out. I dont want to see anyone get hurt. drill the holes to where the load will be held against a cross pin in the chain
You will then remove the plastic bushings in the ends of the stand
I bought a grand slam supreme from a pawn shop years ago and I called API directly and the gal sold me chains and a new seat for around $60 shipped. By the way, my API Bowhunter is the best darned stand ever, and I would gladly buy another if I ever needed to replace it!! old shrink wrap and it makes it much easier to climb with(especially when
After viewing product detail pages, look here to find an easy way to navigate back to pages you are interested in. easily available, it is best to strip any plastic coating from the wire
Best of all it is cheaper
I might check out the Tractor Supply thing then, if it's the exact same thing. tubing the harder it is to pull so this is why it is a big benefit to heat the
tubingfor each chain of your stand , one for the climber section and one
climbing . the proper links to allow the pins to go through. The way the cable is twisted and then the dowels affixed almost prohibits the strands from straying.